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Danny Quintana
Former Tribal Counsel/Skull Valley Band
Salt
Lake City attorney Danny Quintana served as legal counsel to the
Skull Valley Band of the Goshute Indian tribe throughout the time
when the tribe was studying the feasibility of hosting a nuclear
waste storage site, and through the period when a contract was
signed by the tribe with Private Fuel Storage.
Quintana, now largely retired from the practice of law, was interviewed
in his Salt Lake City office by program Producer Ken Verdoia.
Ken Verdoia: Give us an overview. How did you get involved
with the Skull Valley Band and what did you view as your role
in relationship with them?
Danny Quintana: Well, about 11 years ago I won a case
out at the Utah State Prison involving some inmates that wanted
to practice their religion and there was a Sweat Lodge Case, oh
it was Roy Bob v. Deland and I had a couple of tribes call me
that wanted me to represent them after that. And I chose Skull
Valley because of their leadership, they don't drink at all. With
them, alcohol isn't even a subject of polite conversation and
I thought they had the integrity that we'd be able to get a lot
of things done. It was a really good working relationship and
I really appreciated working for them.
The way the whole spent nuclear fuel project got started is really
rather strange because I had drafted the Senate resolution for
Francis Farley to stop the MX Missile System from being sited
in the Utah/Nevada area, because I knew a lot about nuclear power
and I knew a hell of a lot more then I should have about nuclear
weapons. I remember telling my friends at the time that I had
drafted that Senate resolution, that eventually stopped the MX
from coming here, that I was against the use of nuclear power
for war but I wholeheartedly supported the use of nuclear power
for peace, including nuclear energy and nuclear medicine and all
of the benefits that come from that. Ninety-five percent of the
pharmaceutical drugs that we have come about as a result of radioactive
testing, the use of isotopes. Without CAT scans and MRIs, we wouldn't
have modern medicine. And of course nuclear power is a very clean
and efficient way to generate electricity, despite all the criticism
that is occurred.
But what I had said to my friends was that the problem with nuclear
power is what to do with the spent fuel. And of course that was
in 1979. In 1989, David LeRoy, then the Nuclear Waste Negotiator
[in the U.S. Department of Energy], had suggested to numerous
communities to have a federal program that they would be the host
site to store this spent nuclear fuel for the nation. And when
I saw the proposal and it was going out to the Indian community,
I suggested to the Skull Valley Band that we get the proposal
because my intent was to gather the data and put together a report
and kill the proposal. Because I had thought initially what was
occurring was the Department of Energy and the utility companies
were in a conspiracy to dump high level nuclear waste on reservations.
Well, if we're intellectually honest after we do an investigation,
we can either continue to hold our views if they're supported
by the facts or if the facts, as a result of the investigation,
clearly do not support our views then, as reasonable people, we're
obligated to change our mind.
In phase one what we did was we went to Rancho Seco Nuclear Power
Plant over in Sacramento. We met with Green Peace in San Francisco.
We went up to the Columbia River, and met with the Indigenous
People's Network. We went to Virginia. We went to West Palm Beach,
Florida to meet with Florida Power. And we went with the Edison
Electric Institute and with the Department of Energy. And when
we toured the West Palm Beach facility with Florida Power, it
was really rather interesting because in talking with their officials,
they were really concerned about what they were going to do with
their spent fuel because their pool was just about full and the
federal program was at least a decade behind schedule.
Utility company executives don't have the luxury of government
bureaucrats where they can postpone decisions. They have shareholders
and they have decisions they need to make that are long term decisions.
In talking with them, they were really disappointed with the federal
government and it started to become very, very clear that there
was no conspiracy between the utility companies and the Department
of Energy to dump anything on reservations. It was more of the
Department of Energy trying to create a program that a volunteer
community would host the nation's spent nuclear fuel and they
would be paid handsomely for that. Numerous communities applied,
white communities, Indian communities, etc. Even though there
was no conspiracy, it was still incumbent to fully study this
issue so the tribe applied for a phase two grant.
And in phase two, what the tribe did, the Tribal Council did is
they went and visited the nuclear power plants and storage facilities
in Japan and in Europe. And in looking at the storage facilities
abroad, it became crystal clear that this could be safely done.
The only danger in this project is the politics and the money.
With regards to the politics, the danger that comes there is the
labels that are going to occur and the stereotyping and the hysteria
that will be created by politicians because this project is a
no-brainer for a politician. It involves high-level radioactive
waste. It involves a Native American community and it involves
an opportunity to appear green even if they're not. So for a politician
to oppose this is a slam dunk.
Well, the advantage that the Indian communities have is they're
immune to a lot of politics from state and federal politicians.
The only politics they have to deal with are the internal fights
that are going to occur within those communities which are substantial
and brutal. Well, the danger from the money comes from if you
throw money at poor communities instead of having problems with
alcohol, then what you will do is you will have problems with
a decreased willingness on the part of the members of a poor community
to find long term gainful employment and your social indicators,
your suicide rates will go up, and then instead of alcohol problems,
you'll have drug problems because now they can afford drugs like
the white community. So if the money's managed carefully then
those problems can be avoided and if you take a holistic approach
in terms of how you're going to govern, which Skull Valley has
done a very nice job of pursuing.
After the trip to Europe and to Japan, and as a result of that
trip the tribe produced not only a full and comprehensive report
for the Department of Energy but also a film so that they could
educate their members. And the members overwhelmingly voted in
favor of pursuing the facility - Leon Bear, who was Economic Director
at the time, and is now Chairman, did something that I thought
was really, really smart. He took the entire tribe by bus up to
Idaho to the National Engineering Laboratory and they saw for
themselves, firsthand, this is exactly what the storage of spent
nuclear fuel is all about. He calmed their fears and did a really
nice job of educating his members.
But that's in the nature of how the Chairman behaves. He's has
extraordinary judgment. He's a very, very bright guy and he has
tremendous courage and without him this project never would have
gone forward, and of course Lawrence Bear and Leon's father, who
is now deceased, Richard Bear. Because what they do is they look
at projects long term. They look at what is going to be the long
term effect on their community and on the environment, and of
course, the Native American community and the nation. The state
doesn't figure into those equations because in the Goshutes, in
my conversations with them, that's their territory and they had
a much larger territory at one time, which included the whole
Wasatch Front all the way to a little bit past Elko. So they're
very, very protective of their territory and they know exactly
who they are and exactly what they're doing.
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